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[evocates]

just a few things i'm chewing on and throwing out to be chewed on, i guess. each of them merits an entire essay (except for the last one) so i'm not elaborating unless people want me to. -chews lip-

standard disclaimers: MY OPINIONS, NOT THE TRUTH. feel free to argue with me. i have 'argumentation in olympics' as one of my interests, ffs.

so:

1. hibari isn't a free spirit
2. he realizes this, at least in tyl
3. hibari isn't emotionally damaged
4. yamamoto isn't oblivious
5. chrome in tyl is the zen mistress
6. kyouya is supposed to head the ohtori police as third son but he wants to be more
7. tamaki isn't an airhead
8. nor is he naive
9. reborn is ohtori kyouya, twenty years later

GO GO GO

Comments

[euphonious-glow.livejournal.com]

7 and 8 are not understood by a lot of fanfic authors, I think. Tamaki has his moments of perceptiveness: such as with the Princess of Monar in Vol. 9. He even has enough of an awareness of sex to have realized what Haruhi's father would have thought when he walked in on them. It's not necessarily that he's too stupid to realize his romantic feelings, he just doesn't overanalyze and subconsciously represses his crush on Haruhi. I think he understands the world fairly well (he DID see through Kyouya after all), he just doesn't spend time moping about it.

Which is why I admire his attitude.

Does 9 mean Kyouya is reborn 20 years later? Not sure what you mean by the last one.

[evocates.livejournal.com]

Reborn is anther character, from another fandom named Katekyo Hitman Reborn!. It's a total crack theory but I love it. xDDD

And mm yes, precisely. There are very few authors that I will actually read Tamaki, because Tamaki is extraordinarily perceptive. He understands a lot abobut how the world works. The thing is, I see him as being deliberately oblivious more than anything else. It might even be a subconscious thing, but he is purposely blocking out certain things that might break the illusions of what he believes will make every happy - i.e. if he sees Haruhi (oh my god I typed Hibari wtf self) as a potential girlfriend rather than his daughter, it will break the illusion of the Host Club family. And family is something he wants desperately enough to continue fooling himself. Plus, he believes that the status quo makes everyone happy - hence he shouldn't break it.

... basically.

[euphonious-glow.livejournal.com]

I'm rereading all the old volumes, and I really never gave Tamaki enough credit. As one of the twins said, he's completely oblivious when it comes to himself. But he sees through other people fairly well... except Haruhi for some reason. I think TamaHaru is really cute, but just seeing how different their personalities are makes it odd. MoriHaru or even KasanodaHaru (heh... Kasanoda is one of my favorites) seems more realistic. But I do wish Haruhi would care about things more, be a little more curious. I suppose Tamaki could bring that out in her.

It's sweet and sad that Tamaki cares so much about family. I can sort of relate to his feelings a little myself. When I think of "psychologically damaged" characters in Ouran, Kyouya and the twins come to mind right away. But Tamaki's had problems in his life too, except he deals with it in such a different way. Kyouya used to be really bitter about his situation, but Tamaki still tries to see the world in an idealistic light. When you think about it, Tamaki didn't have any friends before the Host Club... so I'm beginning to see this complex side of him. I think the scene where he talks about playing games with his friends in Vol. 3 is just adorable. I thought he was annoying before that, but now I love him. I just think it makes so much more sense for him to end up with Kyouya.... So Kaoru figured out what Tamaki was trying to do, but I'm sure everyone else knew as well. Hunny is another character whose complexities aren't really shown enough. And of course, the lack of Mori backstory and info is disappointing. There's so much Hatori could have shown with the Host Club, and yet her focus seems to be on romance lately... Which isn't bad, but I like learning about all the members.

I ordered Volume 11 today, so I'm psyched for the sports festival arc. Sexy!Kyouya time, go!

[pekori.livejournal.com]

I actually find Tamaki to be very naive, but that doesn't make him stupid. I think his naivety is selective, though; just as he chooses to remain to "carefree," he chooses to remain oblivious to a lot of things. However, his complete misunderstanding of how "love" works within a family speaks volumes in terms of his naivety. We know he is a very intelligent boy from his class ranking; so why would he not realize his perception is incorrect? It does have a bit to do with his own family situation, but one cannot blame that entirely — to do that would also be quite naive.

I, however, one hundred million percent agree with 1, 3 and 4. And 9, but we have discussed that. ^^;

[evocates.livejournal.com]

Mmmr, I see it as more of a deliberate obliviousness. He obviously understands what romantic love is, and I think he knows what real family love entails. Like I said above, he's deliberately blocking it all out. He understands it, but at the same time he believes that seeing Haruhi as a potential girlfriend will break the status quo and a) hurt his friends, b) destroy the family he had so wanted after being separated from his mother. It's something subconscious, I think, because Tamaki isn't capable of blocking it all out consciously. But it's deliberate, nonetheless.

WEE~ <3

Mmmrrr I've spent nearly hours trying to convince someone that Hibari isn't a free spirit and they still don't understand. I give up.

[pekori.livejournal.com]

Hibari traps himself in his own stereotype. He traps himself in that one niche to the point where I don't think he'll ever get himself out of it; you can tell by the way Kusakabe interacts with him. Kusakabe understands that Hibari needs him — needs a subordinate — to feel like himself. That's why he turns everyone he meets into one.

But if he were to ever realize even for a moment that the only world under him is the one made of earth, he wouldn't be able to stand it.

[decimo-calandra.livejournal.com]

YES. Because Hibari isn't really a free spirit - he's a conqueror. He has this aching need to dominate - his catchphrases, his actions, all of it shows that. He has this need to dominate the world and bring it under his feet, which is why he has the Disciplinary Committe, and later the Foundation. He can't stand the thought of being subordinate to someone else - he has to dominate over something, have his own space, and have people terrified of him because fear is a sign of authority.

He's an Enforcer. I compare him a lot to a predator, an Emperor, an alpha because of that aching need to dominate. He doesn't let anyone restrict him, hold him back because those are signs of other people have authority over him. The dominating ego in him won't ever allow that. He follows his own rules, his own organization, his own entire world.

Even if it's one that's slightly deluded. xD

[evocates.livejournal.com]

Ignore that it's RP journal up there. (IRONY IS IRONIC)

And, to clarify what you brought up in AIM, that uh, the last two sentences of what I said supports him being free than not:

No it's not that he's free, it's more that he refuses to bow down to any authority but himself. Freedom connotes a lack of authority. But Hibari wants to be the sole authority over everything, especially himself and his environment. His willpower is extraordinary, after all.

And that's all. -stops babbling-

[octopus.livejournal.com]

I don't know much of Reborn, but I can certainly agree with all of the Ouran ones.